Rachel Zoe recently shared her youngest son’s perspective on life, especially without the presence of his father, Rodger Berman.
The renowned American fashion designer, author and businesswoman tied the knot with Berman in 1996 and welcomed two sons, 14-year-old Skyler and 12-year-old Kaius.
In July 2025, Zoe filed for divorce after nearly thirty years of marriage because she had begun to disagree “about what certain outcomes should be” and “begin to question decisions.”
In the Thursday, March 5 episode of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills the mother of two asked her sons about life without Berman: “I guess my questions are: How does it feel overall? Like this past year. Do you feel like this is better than before? Worse than before? Different than before?”
In a quick and concise manner, Kaius said it was “the same but different.”
However, Kaius has a different answer than his older brother. He said: “He wasn’t really here much. But now he’s just completely gone. There’s no real trace of him.”
Zoe further asked Skyler about the energy in the house after she separated from him, to which he replied, “It feels a little more peaceful.”
She and Kaius already had a detailed conversation about her relationship with Rodger and “unfortunately” the boy was “angry” at her for “letting me be treated the way I was treated.” Because that means I’m not a good model for what they think love, marriage, and relationships should look or feel like.”
“More importantly, how to talk to someone they love,” Zoe noted.

